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Giuliani = Pro-Abortion Extremist

April 12, 2007 · 7 Comments

Rudy Giuliani is not a moderate on the abortion issue. Giuliani’s position on the issue is far more radical than most Democrats.

Partial Birth Abortion – This is testimony from a nurse who witnessed a partial birth abortion that was quoted in the Stenberg v. Carhart case.

“The baby’s little fingers were clasping and unclasping, and his little feet were kicking. Then the doctor stuck the scissors in the back of his head, and the baby’s arms jerked out, like a startle reaction, like a flinch, like a baby does when he thinks he is going to fall. The doctor opened up the scissors, stuck a high-powered suction tube into the opening, and sucked the baby’s brains out. Now the baby went completely limp.” H. R. 1833 Hearing 18 (statement of Brenda Pratt Shafer).

According to an ABC News poll, 69% of people in the U.S. believe that this partial birth abortion procedure should be made illegal. The same poll revealed that 63% of liberals believe that this procedure should be illegal. When the partial birth abortion issue was voted on in the U.S. Senate, it passed by a bipartisan vote of 64 to 33. Yet, Giuliani stated on Meet the Press that it is his firm viewpoint that partial birth abortion should be legal. See Interview @ You Tube.

Public Funding for Abortion – Government funding for abortion is as unpopular with the public as partial birth abortion. A recent Zogby Poll revealed that 74% of the public opposes public money being used for abortion. Yet, Giuliani’s view on abortion is so liberal that he is among the 26% of Americans who believe that the government should pay for women to have abortions. When Giuliani ran for Mayor of New York in 1989, he said directly that he supported public funding of abortion. See Speech @ You Tube. Giuliani was asked the same question again on April 4, 2007 in an interview on CNN, and he stated directly that he still supports government funding for abortion. See Interview @ You Tube.

Appointment of Judges – As President of the United States, Giuliani would have the power to appoint judges to the federal courts including the U.S. Supreme Court. It is possible that a liberal Supreme Court justice might resign during his term as President, which if replaced by a pro-life judge would allow Roe v. Wade to be overturned since there are currently probably four justices on the Supreme Court now who would overturn Roe. Giuliani has tried to appear accommodating on judicial appointments by stating that he would appoint strict constructionists. However, Giuliani has stated repeatedly that he does not believe that a strict constructionist that he appoints would necessarily overturn Roe. See Larry King Interview @ You Tube; See CNN Interview.

Myth Number One – Giuliani has been claiming that he reduced the rate of abortions while he was Mayor of New York City. If the rate of abortions did go down while he was Mayor, that does not prove that he was the factor that produced the decline in abortions. In order for him to rightly be able to make such a claim, he would have to show what policies he implemented that reduced the abortion rate, and Giuliani did not implement any policies while he was Mayor that would produce a decline in abortions. The good economic conditions during the 1990s are a better explanation for a decline in the abortion rate than is Giuliani. Giuliani was the Mayor of a city that New York Times Magazine has labeled the “Abortion Capital of America” because it has the highest abortion rate in American and the most permissive abortion laws, and there is no evidence that Giuliani ever did anything while he was Mayor other than support those laws.

Myth Number Two – Giuliani has indicated that he will not support publicly funded abortions at the federal level and that he will continue to allow the Hyde Amendment, which bans public funding, to exist. First, even if Giuliani did not actually implement Federal funding for abortions, that does not eliminate the concern. The concern is that he believes that public funding for abortions is a good idea, and this proves how radical his support is for abortion. Then we must ask the question of whether we can trust a person who has a radical stance on the abortion issue to support Federal restrictions on abortion and to get pro-life judges on the Federal courts? He cannot be trusted. Second, Giuliani does support public funding for abortion at the Federal level because he supports Federal funding for embryonic stem cell research, which destroys human beings at the embryonic stage in a fashion that is no different from abortion. The only thing preventing Federal funding right now is the veto pen of President Bush. If Giuliani does become President, Federal funding for the destruction of human embryos will be a certainty. This Federal funding will help produce the deaths of millions of people.

The thing that is scary about Giuliani is that he is not even trying to hide his extreme position on abortion despite the fact that it is in his political self-interest to do so. This proves how extreme and radically committed he is to maintaining and perpetuating a state of affairs in the United States where more than one million innocent babies are slaughtered every year.

(Posted by Trask)

Categories: Politics

7 responses so far ↓

  • theobromophile // April 12, 2007 at 7:47 pm

    There are four, possibly five, justices that may vote to overturn Roe now. Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito are a certain four; Kennedy has said that he would so vote, but his opinion may change when called upon to do so. Justice Stevens is either 86 or 87 years old and certainly will not live until Inauguration 2013. So yes, this next presidential term is absolutely crucial for appointment of a fifth staunch conservative.

  • Josh // April 12, 2007 at 11:40 pm

    Roberts may be able to pull Kennedy over. Supposedly, Kennedy regrets his deciding vote in Casey. We certainly can’t trust such speculation, which means basically that the fate of Roe will be in the hands of Stevens’ replacement. The next president will be critical.

  • theobromophile // April 13, 2007 at 12:59 am

    Hate to be morbid, but the next President may not matter if Stevens doesn’t make it another year and a half. He just turned 87.

  • Trask // April 13, 2007 at 7:22 am

    There is no direct evidence that I am aware of that Kennedy regrets his vote in Planned Parenthood v. Casey. In Stenberg v. Carhart, the first partial birth abortion case, he dissented very strongly from the bench. LISTEN TO DISSENT @ OYEZ. His dissent could be an indication that he is rethinking Casey in light of how it was applied in such an extreme manner, but it could also be an indication that he was just unhappy about that specific case. Also, if you read his subsequent majority opinion in Lawrence v. Texas, the sodomy case, he discusses and relies on Casey without offering any evidence of discontent. So basically, Kennedy might be unhappy with Casey, but we do not know that for sure.

    The next President will matter regardless of what happens with Stevens. Even if Stevens retires while Bush is still President, there is a strong possibility that Bush will nominate a person whose position on Roe v. Wade is unknown because Bush will think that is the only way to get another Justice on the Court, especially since the next Justice could provide the fifth vote to overturn Roe. The history of abortion jurisprudence has demonstrated that you cannot count your chickens before they have hatched. Going into Casey people thought the overturn of Roe was inevitable with the number of new Republican appointees. Unfortunately, a number of those Justices did not follow through when the moment of decision arrived, and they caved under the pressure. There can never be enough good justices on the Supreme Court.

  • theobromophile // April 13, 2007 at 12:35 pm

    Before the mid-1980s, Republicans consistently had the problem of appointing seemingly conservative justices who (either immediately or gradually) swung to the Left. Alito, with his 15-year conservative track record, was the first conservative nominee in over 20 years who had such a record. After that victory, I think (hope?) that Bush knows that he can get solid conservatives through the Senate.

    The problem I see is if Stevens retires too close to the ‘08 election, the Senate will simply stall on appointing the new nominee, hoping that a Democrat will take over.

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